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Post by Nogamara on Mar 11, 2010 4:48:11 GMT -5
I will go completely offtopic here - but do you know any other guild where such thing would be discussed (in such way anyways?) Maybe also because I've never been in a "levelling" guild and although our guildchat in my main's guild is very busy, it hardly revolves around these things. Plus I was interested in people's views on this. I know it's kind of common or even expected in order to appear friendly, when it's actually less than smalltalk.
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Post by Passiflora on Mar 11, 2010 4:49:40 GMT -5
I grat\ on everything, for two reasons: This is the second character I can honestly say I've enjoyed playing beyond lvl10 so its all new. I love you all, so hugs come free. I'll occasionally double gratz for those that dont want to, this however is usually a typo/hysterical typing accident. As long as I dont get boo'd for hugs i'm happy
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Post by Jaedia on Mar 11, 2010 6:56:16 GMT -5
We could even make an innuendo themed event! INURENDO!
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Post by pewter on Mar 11, 2010 8:07:49 GMT -5
Honestly I think it's just that 'gz' pisses me the fuck off. If someone wants to take the time to type out 'Congratulations' or 'Nice!' or something that, yanno, MAKES SENSE, them I'm all for it. If they don't, that's fine too.
JUST DON'T 'GZ'
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Post by len on Mar 11, 2010 17:53:46 GMT -5
I will go completely offtopic here - but do you know any other guild where such thing would be discussed (in such way anyways?) As bloggers or blog readers, we are used to share our views while respecting the point of the other people. SAN is no different. We share. Heh, I've never been part of a community that thought so hard over the word 'grats' I have to say for me it's almost an automatic reaction now... probably with the sentiment of 'I want to let you know that I am reading through guild chat and I can see you did something unusual/difficult/to progress/that almost killed you/that you weren't even paying attention to'.
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Post by guthammer on Mar 11, 2010 18:26:32 GMT -5
I thought it was funny that I got a grats for picking up my pets from the mail box. Or a bit much.
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Post by gameldar on Mar 12, 2010 0:48:44 GMT -5
I like the gratz thing simply because it is a way for me to keep track of the achievements _I_ get... well in dungeons at least.
Classic example - we're having a quick break as someone afks in a dungeon and I look at guild chat and see the congratulations from others (I'm one of those tanks that can't tank and chat away... I have trouble reading while tanking). Scrolling up I couldn't see what the gratz were for - and then someone points out that they were congratulating me for something I had got - exalted with a faction - which was a good reminder to me to change my tabbard!
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Post by Ricah on Mar 12, 2010 2:56:55 GMT -5
I tend to gratz for the milestone things as well, the level 10,20,30 etc, catching x nr of fish (you need patience for that! That's an achievement in itself!), completing dungeons for the 1st time. For the smaller things like exploring or your first pet, i'll grats if im in the mood, or if i feel like joining in the gratz-spam. I completely understand though if people do NOT want to gratz, either out of principle or otherwise, to each their own. As a somewhat related RL example: My boyfriend is british and lives with me in Holland. In Holland we have this completely weird and silly habit to congratulate EVERYONE at a birthday, not only the actual birthday-boy (or girl). This means that if you arrive late at a party you go around the whole room shaking hands with every single person there, or kissing the women on the cheeks 3x (another dutch thing), congratulating them with the birthday of their friend/brother/sister/son/daughter/father/mother/niece/nephew/cousin/granpa/grandma/son-in-law...you get the point.... Of course my boyfriend finds this a ridiculous habit, so we tend to come early at parties so we get to sit down and have everyone come to us instead The point is, to each their own.
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Post by Spiritusrex on Mar 24, 2010 10:29:23 GMT -5
I tend to gravitate towards the "many gratz" crowd, with some caveats. Typically, anybody that accomplishes (via achievement) something, gets a "Gratz" from me. The exceptions? The ones where nothing has to be done to achieve something, like ... opening your mail (1st companion). I mean, seriously?
However, the ones where something is really hard-earned, uhm, I'm thinking Mr. Pinchy or Unarmed Skill to 400, those deserve a big ol' "WOOT! Gratz, dude or dudette!" (depending on the person in question), because having been there/done that I know that it requires a certain level of comittment (mostly to a sanitarium) and sacrifice of time to complete those achievements and therefore, IMO, warrants my recognition of your effort. But again, that's just me and at the end of the day we each only have to answer to ourselves.
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Post by valgav on Mar 24, 2010 10:38:37 GMT -5
I was just about to post what Echo posted, though even that spot takes a couple tries. I even remember having a guy fly over to me and ask me what the hell I was doing after he watched me jump like four or five times.
As for the grats thing, I am inconsistent as to whether or not I grats a meaningless achievement, though I will definitely grats worthwhile achievement like Master of Warsong or Loremaster.
For nonachievements, like Shave and a Haircut, I'll usually wait a bit then add grtz, grass, gotz, or something else similar. I know its not funny... but I can't help myself.
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Post by Grindelle on Mar 24, 2010 11:10:59 GMT -5
'To Gratz or Not To Gratz' is such an endless and hotly-debated topic, it's a wonder that the subject has not single-handedly brought down the Blizzard forums, not to mention torn apart guilds and even entire realms. Personally, it's all I can do to set aside 4 or 5 hours a week to catch up on a few blogs and podcasts which deal exclusively with the discussion of Achievements and which you should and shouldn't congratulate people on. I think for anyone serious about WoW that's pretty much the minimum amount of time you need to invest in it. Even then, I feel like I'm so behind on the trends and new ways of thinking. The 'Gratz-Fashions' change so quickly - I feel like I can't keep up! And don't get me started on how much I struggle to follow some of the Achievement/Gratz theorycraft which is discussed on the Elitist Jerks forums. That's, like, a whole other level. I feel like a total nub. I think there should be a seperate forum for discussions of this magnitute - maybe we should even start a wiki? Guys? GUYS?!
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Post by poneria on Mar 24, 2010 12:02:32 GMT -5
If people like, I can show them this one place in shattrath which is the perfect height to give you the achievement and leave you with a little health. We could even make an innuendo themed event! What, Scryers' tower? Or the one bridge over Lower City on the south side? Tried both for the stupid brewfest one, and it took me several tries to get it in just the right spot, because I would land on weird terrain. (y'know, where your toon is obviously on a sloped ground, but your toon is also standing a few inches off the ground because of how the graphics don't quite match the computer code location?)
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Post by vett on Mar 24, 2010 14:58:37 GMT -5
I like all the gratz this and that stuff that goes on, people are soooo friendly and I agree with most that the fact that iis even being debated is awesome!!!!!
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Post by adam on Mar 25, 2010 2:59:35 GMT -5
I'm not much of a grats guy. I prefer back rubs and soothing music while raiding old world content.
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Post by salvaenus on Mar 25, 2010 5:22:14 GMT -5
Isn't saying "I'll kill you" also a social convention of expressing moderate to heavy disagreement with said person's actions? I suspect that you are right in your assessment of the Phrase, unfortunately this stems from abuse and disrespect of the English language. Saying such things as "I'll kill you" or "I hate/love you" is something, that in my mind, far to many people say and take lightly. These are abused Phrases that no longer have the meaning and forcefulness they once had. Similar to the state of the word "gay", now misused by millions of young people to denote something of which they do not approve of. Gets my panties in a twist EVERY SINGLE TIME. TL:DR I am a grumpy old git who doesn't care for the state the English Language is in. Get off my lawn!
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